Wednesday, May 8, 2013

08 Jays at Rays - Game 3

Toronto Blue Jays (13-21) at Tampa Bay Rays (14-18)

Starting Pitchers:
Toronto: Ricky Romero (0-1, 6.75 ERA)
Tampa Bay: Matt Moore (5-0, 1.95 ERA)

From Tropicana Field, St. Petersburg, Florida, United States
Wednesday, May 8, 2013
First Pitch: 7:10 pm est
Series Game 3 of 4
Season Game 35 of 162

Umpires:
Home - Scott Barry,
First Base - Tim Welke,
Second Base - Mike Everitt,
Third Base - Marty Foster

Game Notes


Final in 9
Toronto Blue Jays: 4
Tampa Bay Rays: 10


Izturis's foul ball - did the Umpire get it right?

This was a weird one.

I sat down to score tonight's game hoping to see the Tampa Bay Rays' phenom Matt Moore (5-0, 1.94 ERA) pitch towards his 6th win with whatever he does to get those kind of numbers. Instead I watched two teams play sloppily on the base paths and a couple of pitchers barely avoid being crushed by avalanches of their own design.

Ricky Romero had one out and the sacks full with three runs in, in the first before Gibbons pulled him in favour of veteran starter Edgar Gonzalez - today's call-up from AAA Buffalo to replace line-drive-to-the-head starter J. A. Happ (on the DL - he's OK; was at the ball park, gave press conference) - and Moore - the 6 win Moore - was just awful ... but just awfully wild enough that the Jays couldn't get that key hit all night long - with the bases full of runners - all night long. And when they did string together hits late, against the Tampa bullpen, ran themselves out of the inning with stupid base running and at one point actually scored a run on insane base running by two runners on the same play! (Arencebia and Davis in the 7th)

The foul ball

In the 6th the Umpires got into the act, calling a ball hit into the field of play a foul ball.

With the ball hit to 1st baseman James Loney fielding *behind* the 1st base bag, that ball should have been seen by the Umpire as a ball in play, a fair ball --- should it not?

On the replay though, the ball seemed to hit first in the left handed batter's, batters box - foul - before lining to the fair side of the bag at first to the waiting Loney.

The thing is, the batter's box is in foul ground - so therefore isn't that immediately a foul ball? Like when the batted ball hits the batter - still in the batters box - isn't is called a foul?

But then a ball in play can roll foul and then roll fair again along the fouls lines; the call - fair or foul - only happens after the fielder touches the ball (that's why you see corner fielders - who think they don't have a play at first on a slow rolling ball down the line - scoop the ball in foul ground away from the field of play - they're making sure there is no mistake, that they don't let it run fair again and allow the runner a base hit).

But.

I have never seen a ball hit first foul and then on a seemingly straight line end up passing into the outfield fair.

Bizarro.

I think that a hit ball has to hit in fair ground *first* before it can then go foul - and perhaps come back fair again.

I think the Umpire may have gotten it right after all.

But that's not what all the experts on the broadcast thought - and Joe Maddon the Rays' skipper got thrown out of the game by Home plate Umpire Scott Barry for arguing it.

What say you?

mh




All Scorecard 'Game Notes' are cross posted at Michael Holloway's Baseball Blogs. "Izturis's foul ball - did the Umpire get it right?" - http://baseball---blog.blogspot.ca/2013/05/izturiss-foul-ball-did-umpire-get-it.html




Toronto Blue Jays
1. B Lawrie 3B






2. M Cabrera DH






3. J Bautista RF






4. E Encarnacion 1B






5. J Arencibia C






6. R Davis LF






7. M DeRosa 2B






8. M Izturis SS






9. E Bonifacio CF






Per-Inning Totals
Runs
Hits
Errors
LOB
Jays
Catchers
1.
2.
3.
Infielders
1.
2.
3.
4.
Outfielders
1.
2.
3.
4.
Tampa Bay Rays
1. D Jennings CF






2. K Johnson LF






3. B Zobrist 2B






4. E Longoria 3B






5. J Loney 1B






6. Y Escobar SS






7. L Scott DH






8. J Lobaton C






9. S Fuld RF






Per-Inning Totals
Runs
Hits
Errors
LOB
Rays
Catchers
1.
2.
3.
Infielders
1.
2.
3.
4.
Outfielders
1.
2.
3.
4.
1st




























GO6-3



















RS













BH8
short
































FO3@1
pop


















RS
2RBI












HR8

































BH8
GB2nd
































BH8/7
#5 1,2
bloop































FO8
/








































































1st
2
4
0
2
Bench
Relievers
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
Starters
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
1st














RS













BB



















RS













BH9/8
#1 1,3


















RS













BB
#2 1,2



















RBI












BH7
#1 3,H
#2 2,3
#3 1,2

















RBI












BH9
#2 3,H
#3 2,3
#4 1,2






























FO7




















RBI












BH9
#3 3,H
#4 2,3
#5 1,2








E Gonzalez P





















Ks

































FO3f
/




1st
3
4
0
3
Bench
Relievers
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
Starters
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
Box Score
Toronto Blue Jays
Tampa Bay Rays
2nd




























GO1-3
#9 1,2
GB1/5



WP


























#9 2,3
FO9
/










































































































































































































GO4-3













wp



















BH9
short




2nd
0
1
0
1
Pitcher
Ricky Romero
Edgar Gonzalez











2nd




























GO4-3



















RS













2BH7
7-6-4
Looked like a catchable ball, maybe Davis lost it in the ceiling - he comes up throwing and it looks like the throw has a chance to get the batter runner at 2nd, but Izturis doesn't know that's happening and cuts it a deep cut off and De Rosa isn't on the bag anyway - and not to mention apparently no communication from Ce Rosa


















RBI












BH7 line
#2 2,H
































BB
#3 1,2
































GO3-1
#3 2,3
#4 1,2































GO5-3
/










































































































2nd
1
2
0
2
Pitcher













1st
2
3
2nd
0
1
3rd
0
0
3rd
































































































GO5-3



























dp





BB

































FO8/7

































FC6UA
#4 Out /










































































































3rd
0
0
0
1
Pitcher
IP













H













R













3rd












































































































































































































d-shift
5>RF





















DP





HBP

































FO7

































DP9-3
/
#7 dbld-off
sinking line drive shoe top catch comes up firing Encarnacion catches the ball between the runner and the bag - thinks tag, runner stops, steps on the bag



3rd
0
0
0
0
Pitcher
IP













H













R













4th
0
2
5th
0
0
6th
0
4
4th




























FO9
/










































































































































































































BB

































sac bunt 5/1
1-3
#7 1,2































FO9
nice throw




4th
0
0
0
1
Totals
ER













BB













K













4th




























FO8

































GO3UA
LD3


















RS













BB



















RS
2RBI












HR7 line
#3 1,H
































FO5@6
short /
pop











































































































































4th
2
1
0
0
Totals
ER













BB













K













7th
2
0
8th
0
0
9th
0
x
5th


































9 pitch at bat



























2BH7
line
































K

































BB

































FO8

































BB
#2 2,3
#4 1,2































Ks
/








































































5th
0
1
0
3
HR













P/S













ERA













5th






































































































































































































GO6-3

































FO9

































BH8
LD2nd
































G05-3 !
/
Lawrie has to go to the line to get the ball then leaps in the air and makes a quick release throw - Encarnacion has to step backwards into foul ground and makes the catch on a bounce while keeping hois right foot on the bag for the out.



5th
0
1
0
1
HR













P/S













ERA













10th
-
-
11th
-
-
Runs
4
10
6th




























GO5-3
/






















































































































































































































J Wright P





















Ks
Maddon ejected
after giving the Home plate Ump a hard time about a foul ball that appeared on the replay to hit in the batters box before ground balling out to the 1st baseman - never seen a ball go straight and end up in-play, that started out of play - but the replay seems to indicate that it IS possible

































GO4-3





6th
0
0
0
0
6th














RS













BH8
LD


















RS
RBI












HR9
#1 1,H
so high I thought it might hit one of those structural rings and get scored a double or something - no luck as it lands in the stands in straight away RF









E Rogers P







RS













HBP

































Ks



















RS
RBI












2BH8/9
deep
#3 1,H































BH7
#5 2,3
LD


















RBI












FO8 sac
#5 3,H
































FO9
/






































6th
4
4
0
1
Hits
9
13
Errors
0
0
L.O.B.
11
9
7th










































pb





RS













BB













fc













pb





HBP
#2 1,2




PB


























#2,#3-1B
LO7 sac
#2 3,H


















RS throw, drop ball by catcher













FC6-5
#3 Out
?










2 bases on throw
from 8, drop ball by catcher


















BH8
#5 1,2



















RBI ? (more like E8th,
E2 and 'error running' on Arencibia and Davis)





fc





BH8
#5 2,3
8-2
#6 1,3 (on the throw)
(ball bounces away from catcher)
#5 3,H








C Ramos P





















FC6-4
#7 Out /





































7th
2
2
0
2
7th




























FO3

































BB











B Cecil P





















FO8
/










































































































































































































FO7





7th
0
0
0
1
8th




























Ks

































FO9
/












































































































































































































































FO9f
bullpen




8th
0
0
0
0
8th


































































































































2BH7

































GO6-3

































GO4-3
#4 2,3
































Ks
/








































































8th
0
1
0
1
9th
































































































FO7

































GO6-3



























DI





BH7
LD6































#3 1,2
K
//










































































































9th
0
1
x
1
9th


















































































































































































































































































































9th
x
x
0
x
Batting Totals
AB



AB



AB



AB



AB



AB



AB



AB



AB



Batting Totals
AB



AB



AB



AB



AB



AB



AB



AB



AB




R



R



R



R



R



R



R



R



R




R



R



R



R



R



R



R



R



R




H



H



H



H



H



H



H



H



H




H



H



H



H



H



H



H



H



H




RBI



RBI



RBI



RBI



RBI



RBI



RBI



RBI



RBI




RBI



RBI



RBI



RBI



RBI



RBI



RBI



RBI



RBI




BB



BB



BB



BB



BB



BB



BB



BB



BB




BB



BB



BB



BB



BB



BB



BB



BB



BB




SO



SO



SO



SO



SO



SO



SO



SO



SO




SO



SO



SO



SO



SO



SO



SO



SO



SO




LOB



LOB



LOB



LOB



LOB



LOB



LOB



LOB



LOB




LOB



LOB



LOB



LOB



LOB



LOB



LOB



LOB



LOB




BA



BA



BA



BA



BA



BA



BA



BA



BA




BA



BA



BA



BA



BA



BA



BA



BA



BA




Per-Inning Totals
4
9
0
11
Per-Inning Totals
10
13
0
9

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