Toronto Blue Jays (13-21) at Tampa Bay Rays (14-18)
Starting Pitchers:
Toronto: Ricky Romero (0-1, 6.75 ERA)
Tampa Bay: Matt Moore (5-0, 1.95 ERA)
From Tropicana Field, St. Petersburg, Florida, United States
Wednesday, May 8, 2013
First Pitch: 7:10 pm est
Series Game 3 of 4
Season Game 35 of 162
Umpires:
Home - Scott Barry,
First Base - Tim Welke,
Second Base - Mike Everitt,
Third Base - Marty Foster
Final in 9
Toronto Blue Jays: 4
Tampa Bay Rays: 10
This was a weird one.
I sat down to score tonight's game hoping to see the Tampa Bay Rays' phenom Matt Moore (5-0, 1.94 ERA) pitch towards his 6th win with whatever he does to get those kind of numbers. Instead I watched two teams play sloppily on the base paths and a couple of pitchers barely avoid being crushed by avalanches of their own design.
Ricky Romero had one out and the sacks full with three runs in, in the first before Gibbons pulled him in favour of veteran starter Edgar Gonzalez - today's call-up from AAA Buffalo to replace line-drive-to-the-head starter J. A. Happ (on the DL - he's OK; was at the ball park, gave press conference) - and Moore - the 6 win Moore - was just awful ... but just awfully wild enough that the Jays couldn't get that key hit all night long - with the bases full of runners - all night long. And when they did string together hits late, against the Tampa bullpen, ran themselves out of the inning with stupid base running and at one point actually scored a run on insane base running by two runners on the same play! (Arencebia and Davis in the 7th)
The foul ball
In the 6th the Umpires got into the act, calling a ball hit into the field of play a foul ball.
With the ball hit to 1st baseman James Loney fielding *behind* the 1st base bag, that ball should have been seen by the Umpire as a ball in play, a fair ball --- should it not?
On the replay though, the ball seemed to hit first in the left handed batter's, batters box - foul - before lining to the fair side of the bag at first to the waiting Loney.
The thing is, the batter's box is in foul ground - so therefore isn't that immediately a foul ball? Like when the batted ball hits the batter - still in the batters box - isn't is called a foul?
But then a ball in play can roll foul and then roll fair again along the fouls lines; the call - fair or foul - only happens after the fielder touches the ball (that's why you see corner fielders - who think they don't have a play at first on a slow rolling ball down the line - scoop the ball in foul ground away from the field of play - they're making sure there is no mistake, that they don't let it run fair again and allow the runner a base hit).
But.
I have never seen a ball hit first foul and then on a seemingly straight line end up passing into the outfield fair.
Bizarro.
I think that a hit ball has to hit in fair ground *first* before it can then go foul - and perhaps come back fair again.
I think the Umpire may have gotten it right after all.
But that's not what all the experts on the broadcast thought - and Joe Maddon the Rays' skipper got thrown out of the game by Home plate Umpire Scott Barry for arguing it.
What say you?
mh
All Scorecard 'Game Notes' are cross posted at Michael Holloway's Baseball Blogs. "Izturis's foul ball - did the Umpire get it right?" - http://baseball---blog.blogspot.ca/2013/05/izturiss-foul-ball-did-umpire-get-it.html
Starting Pitchers:
Toronto: Ricky Romero (0-1, 6.75 ERA)
Tampa Bay: Matt Moore (5-0, 1.95 ERA)
From Tropicana Field, St. Petersburg, Florida, United States
Wednesday, May 8, 2013
First Pitch: 7:10 pm est
Series Game 3 of 4
Season Game 35 of 162
Umpires:
Home - Scott Barry,
First Base - Tim Welke,
Second Base - Mike Everitt,
Third Base - Marty Foster
Game Notes
Final in 9
Toronto Blue Jays: 4
Tampa Bay Rays: 10
Izturis's foul ball - did the Umpire get it right?
This was a weird one.
I sat down to score tonight's game hoping to see the Tampa Bay Rays' phenom Matt Moore (5-0, 1.94 ERA) pitch towards his 6th win with whatever he does to get those kind of numbers. Instead I watched two teams play sloppily on the base paths and a couple of pitchers barely avoid being crushed by avalanches of their own design.
Ricky Romero had one out and the sacks full with three runs in, in the first before Gibbons pulled him in favour of veteran starter Edgar Gonzalez - today's call-up from AAA Buffalo to replace line-drive-to-the-head starter J. A. Happ (on the DL - he's OK; was at the ball park, gave press conference) - and Moore - the 6 win Moore - was just awful ... but just awfully wild enough that the Jays couldn't get that key hit all night long - with the bases full of runners - all night long. And when they did string together hits late, against the Tampa bullpen, ran themselves out of the inning with stupid base running and at one point actually scored a run on insane base running by two runners on the same play! (Arencebia and Davis in the 7th)
The foul ball
In the 6th the Umpires got into the act, calling a ball hit into the field of play a foul ball.
With the ball hit to 1st baseman James Loney fielding *behind* the 1st base bag, that ball should have been seen by the Umpire as a ball in play, a fair ball --- should it not?
On the replay though, the ball seemed to hit first in the left handed batter's, batters box - foul - before lining to the fair side of the bag at first to the waiting Loney.
The thing is, the batter's box is in foul ground - so therefore isn't that immediately a foul ball? Like when the batted ball hits the batter - still in the batters box - isn't is called a foul?
But then a ball in play can roll foul and then roll fair again along the fouls lines; the call - fair or foul - only happens after the fielder touches the ball (that's why you see corner fielders - who think they don't have a play at first on a slow rolling ball down the line - scoop the ball in foul ground away from the field of play - they're making sure there is no mistake, that they don't let it run fair again and allow the runner a base hit).
But.
I have never seen a ball hit first foul and then on a seemingly straight line end up passing into the outfield fair.
Bizarro.
I think that a hit ball has to hit in fair ground *first* before it can then go foul - and perhaps come back fair again.
I think the Umpire may have gotten it right after all.
But that's not what all the experts on the broadcast thought - and Joe Maddon the Rays' skipper got thrown out of the game by Home plate Umpire Scott Barry for arguing it.
What say you?
mh
All Scorecard 'Game Notes' are cross posted at Michael Holloway's Baseball Blogs. "Izturis's foul ball - did the Umpire get it right?" - http://baseball---blog.blogspot.ca/2013/05/izturiss-foul-ball-did-umpire-get-it.html
Toronto Blue Jays
1. B Lawrie 3B
2. M Cabrera DH
3. J Bautista RF
4. E Encarnacion 1B
5. J Arencibia C
6. R Davis LF
7. M DeRosa 2B
8. M Izturis SS
9. E Bonifacio CF
Per-Inning Totals
Runs
Hits
Errors
LOB
Jays
Catchers
1.
2.
3.
2.
3.
Infielders
1.
2.
3.
4.
2.
3.
4.
Outfielders
1.
2.
3.
4.
2.
3.
4.
Tampa Bay Rays
1. D Jennings CF
2. K Johnson LF
3. B Zobrist 2B
4. E Longoria 3B
5. J Loney 1B
6. Y Escobar SS
7. L Scott DH
8. J Lobaton C
9. S Fuld RF
Per-Inning Totals
Runs
Hits
Errors
LOB
Rays
Catchers
1.
2.
3.
2.
3.
Infielders
1.
2.
3.
4.
2.
3.
4.
Outfielders
1.
2.
3.
4.
2.
3.
4.
1st
1st
2
4
0
2
Bench
Relievers
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
Starters
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
2.
3.
4.
5.
1st
1st
3
4
0
3
Bench
Relievers
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
Starters
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
2.
3.
4.
5.
Box Score
Toronto Blue Jays
Tampa Bay Rays
2nd
WP
2nd
0
1
0
1
Pitcher
Ricky Romero
Edgar Gonzalez
2nd
2nd
1
2
0
2
Pitcher
1st
2
3
2nd
0
1
3rd
0
0
3rd
3rd
0
0
0
1
Pitcher
IP
H
R
3rd
d-shift
5>RF
5>RF
3rd
0
0
0
0
Pitcher
IP
H
R
4th
0
2
5th
0
0
6th
0
4
4th
4th
0
0
0
1
Totals
ER
BB
K
4th
4th
2
1
0
0
Totals
ER
BB
K
7th
2
0
8th
0
0
9th
0
x
5th
9 pitch at bat
5th
0
1
0
3
HR
P/S
ERA
5th
5th
0
1
0
1
HR
P/S
ERA
10th
-
-
11th
-
-
Runs
4
10
6th
6th
0
0
0
0
6th
6th
4
4
0
1
Hits
9
13
Errors
0
0
L.O.B.
11
9
7th
PB
7th
2
2
0
2
7th
7th
0
0
0
1
8th
8th
0
0
0
0
8th
8th
0
1
0
1
9th
9th
0
1
x
1
9th
9th
x
x
0
x
Batting Totals
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
Batting Totals
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
RBI
RBI
RBI
RBI
RBI
RBI
RBI
RBI
RBI
RBI
RBI
RBI
RBI
RBI
RBI
RBI
RBI
RBI
BB
BB
BB
BB
BB
BB
BB
BB
BB
BB
BB
BB
BB
BB
BB
BB
BB
BB
SO
SO
SO
SO
SO
SO
SO
SO
SO
SO
SO
SO
SO
SO
SO
SO
SO
SO
LOB
LOB
LOB
LOB
LOB
LOB
LOB
LOB
LOB
LOB
LOB
LOB
LOB
LOB
LOB
LOB
LOB
LOB
BA
BA
BA
BA
BA
BA
BA
BA
BA
BA
BA
BA
BA
BA
BA
BA
BA
BA
Per-Inning Totals
4
9
0
11
Per-Inning Totals
10
13
0
9
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